Comments on: Nationwide Concealed Carry

By: MichaelG

MichaelG — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:19:12 +0000

I disagree with your logic. I would rather we enlist retired police officers to support carry (not just concealed) for all citizens as their path to also being able to carry once they have lost their “only ones” status. Which would naturally lead (I can dream) to senior officers currently on the payroll supporting such a move as they approach losing their “only ones” status.
Enlightened self interest buys more support than altruism most of the time.
A good example is the progress since LEOSA.
Michael
“What part of shall not be infringed don’t you understand?”

By: straightarrow

straightarrow — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 03:25:44 +0000

I’m still waiting to hear the first retired cop talk about expanding reciprocity to all citizens. I don’t think it will happen until they have to live by the rules we do and decide it isn’t for them. They are already used to being “special” and will see this as their due, not as a universal right.

By: GreatBlueWhale

GreatBlueWhale — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:45:13 +0000

This is what I meant about forcing concealed carry. Can’t believe it came up in my alerts this evening. Talk about coincidence.

http://www.tricities.com/tristate/tri/opinions.apx.-content-articles-TRI-2007-09-23-0005.html

By: Alcibiades McZombie

Alcibiades McZombie — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:19:07 +0000

Since the anti-gunners are against RC-CCW (retired cop CCW), I’m inclined to support it. I don’t know why they are against it, though. For years, they’ve been telling us that the police are the only ones responsible enough. But the second they leave that job, they become irresponsible citizens? RC-CCW could help voters understand the logically inconsistent argument of anti-gunners.

I think it is a good idea to shove this down the throat of anti-gun states and cities. The only way to defeat them is to defeat their strongholds.

By: GreatBlueWhale

GreatBlueWhale — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:46:59 +0000

If D.C v. Heller breaks our way, all hell should break loose in the courts of at least the most restrictive states. We will be living in interesting times. I wonder what those legislatures would choose, open carry or force to conceal so we don’t frighten the GFWs into PSH.

One of our problems is that we don’t open carry where we can. WE don’t want the hassle of being stopped or of explaining to the nice officer, ala ColtCCO’s prediciment this past summer in TN. I bet it’s a long time before anyone else get’s hassled for open carry in Knoxville. And I’m sure you’ve seen the Richmond Va problems about open carry.

By: Ahab

Ahab — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:41:15 +0000

Good luck with that.

By: Jay G.

Jay G. — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:35:55 +0000

I would love, love, love our policy makers abiding by the damn Constitution…

By: Ahab

Ahab — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:41:32 +0000

I would love, love, love nationwide open carry.

By: Robb Allen

Robb Allen — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:30:13 +0000

I hope you realize my position, though. While yes, this might move us towards that goal, I also think it reinforces the division between us and “them” which could make it even harder for us in the long run.

It’s a tough situation. I can’t say that’s truly going to happen, it’s just a feeling. What I prefer is open carry everywhere. The more people see guns, the more comfortable they feel around them. Right now, when they see them on a cop, they don’t even think twice. It would be fantastic if that were the same when it’s done by a regular Jane or Joe.

I’m not against the move, really, but I just hate the “Only Ones” mentality (especially since my old man is a cop and tends to have that).