Comments on: New Life Church shooting http://gunnuts.net/2007/12/10/new-life-church-shooting/ Gun info by shooters, for shooters Thu, 17 May 2012 03:18:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Bob Walker http://gunnuts.net/2007/12/10/new-life-church-shooting/#comment-1709 Bob Walker Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:29:11 +0000 http://www.nrahab.com/?p=844#comment-1709 Why, the media rush to have the defender of life and liberty, be a "law enforcement" officer, or "armed security personnel" and not a concerned "citizen" with the sense of right and wrong in this instance. People don't seem to realize that the "citizen" is, and will allways be the "first line of defense" in our society. Law Enforcement, by its nature and design are "responders". This means that they primarily respond to clean up the mess, not prevent this type behavior. Citizens must play a more proactive role. If the lady who put her life on the line, otherwise legally possessing a CCW license, did what she had to do to curtail this rampage, she did what every citizen should have done in this instance. This country was made great by this type of backbone and decision-making before we even had "sworn" officers and will continue to take up the slack in light of the politics and lack of a system in place to address those with a death wish like this shooter, and others. Any loss is bad, but this one shooter has been removed from the gene pool and that has to be a positive consideration. Why should anyone try to "couch" her function, under some false "color of law" for justification. She performed as I would want those responsible for my own family and children to do. Virginia Tech, should have had someone of this woman's statue on site as well willing and dedicated to duty. Why, the media rush to have the defender of life and liberty, be a “law enforcement” officer, or “armed security personnel” and not a concerned “citizen” with the sense of right and wrong in this instance. People don’t seem to realize that the “citizen” is, and will allways be the “first line of defense” in our society. Law Enforcement, by its nature and design are “responders”. This means that they primarily respond to clean up the mess, not prevent this type behavior. Citizens must play a more proactive role.

If the lady who put her life on the line, otherwise legally possessing a CCW license, did what she had to do to curtail this rampage, she did what every citizen should have done in this instance. This country was made great by this type of backbone and decision-making before we even had “sworn” officers and will continue to take up the slack in light of the politics and lack of a system in place to address those with a death wish like this shooter, and others.

Any loss is bad, but this one shooter has been removed from the gene pool and that has to be a positive consideration.

Why should anyone try to “couch” her function, under some false “color of law” for justification. She performed as I would want those responsible for my own family and children to do. Virginia Tech, should have had someone of this woman’s statue on site as well willing and dedicated to duty.

]]> By: annie http://gunnuts.net/2007/12/10/new-life-church-shooting/#comment-1710 annie Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:36:51 +0000 http://www.nrahab.com/?p=844#comment-1710 Another view...here ya go: http://www.denverpost.com/watercooler/ci_7683781 Another view…here ya go:
http://www.denverpost.com/watercooler/ci_7683781

]]> By: COSPastor http://gunnuts.net/2007/12/10/new-life-church-shooting/#comment-1711 COSPastor Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:02:29 +0000 http://www.nrahab.com/?p=844#comment-1711 The hero's name is Jeanne Assam, and she tells an amazing story: Here is the transcript from Pastor Boyd's press conference: http://www.newlifechurch.org/db_images2/12-10-9am.pdf And here is an article with quotes from Jeanne: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/10/colorado.shootings/index.html "I saw him coming through the doors," she told reporters on Monday. "I took cover, and I waited for him to get closer, and I came out of cover and identified myself, and engaged him, and took him down. And that's pretty much it." "I give the credit to God. And I say that very humbly. God was with me and the whole time I was behind cover -- this has got to be God, because of the firepower that [the gunman] had vs. what I had -- was God. I did not run away and I didn't think for a minute to run away, I just knew that I was given the assignment to end this before it got too much worse. I just prayed for the Holy Spirit to guide me." The hero’s name is Jeanne Assam, and she tells an amazing story:

Here is the transcript from Pastor Boyd’s press conference:
http://www.newlifechurch.org/db_images2/12-10-9am.pdf

And here is an article with quotes from Jeanne:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/10/colorado.shootings/index.html

“I saw him coming through the doors,” she told reporters on Monday. “I took cover, and I waited for him to get closer, and I came out of cover and identified myself, and engaged him, and took him down. And that’s pretty much it.”

“I give the credit to God. And I say that very humbly. God was with me and the whole time I was behind cover — this has got to be God, because of the firepower that [the gunman] had vs. what I had — was God. I did not run away and I didn’t think for a minute to run away, I just knew that I was given the assignment to end this before it got too much worse. I just prayed for the Holy Spirit to guide me.”

]]> By: ricketyclick » Blog Archive » Defenseless in Nebraska; Safe in Colorado http://gunnuts.net/2007/12/10/new-life-church-shooting/#comment-1714 ricketyclick » Blog Archive » Defenseless in Nebraska; Safe in Colorado Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:49:15 +0000 http://www.nrahab.com/?p=844#comment-1714 [...] It has happened, and no, it didn’t start a free-for-all. Instead, many lives were likely saved. [...] [...] It has happened, and no, it didn’t start a free-for-all. Instead, many lives were likely saved. [...]

]]> By: doug in Colorado Springs http://gunnuts.net/2007/12/10/new-life-church-shooting/#comment-1713 doug in Colorado Springs Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:51:10 +0000 http://www.nrahab.com/?p=844#comment-1713 Local accounts indicate the volunteer parishioner was from a law enforcement background, but not that she was a current off-duty officer...good on her, and I would count that as a win for the good guys/gals. Same perp is reported to have killed 2, wounded 2 at the missionary dorm in Arvada the previous night. Local accounts indicate the volunteer parishioner was from a law enforcement background, but not that she was a current off-duty officer…good on her, and I would count that as a win for the good guys/gals. Same perp is reported to have killed 2, wounded 2 at the missionary dorm in Arvada the previous night.

]]> By: annie http://gunnuts.net/2007/12/10/new-life-church-shooting/#comment-1712 annie Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:21:29 +0000 http://www.nrahab.com/?p=844#comment-1712 If you thought you had mail *before*, Ahab, buckel up and hang on! I'm seeing this blog entry of yours linked EVERYwhere, pointing people to comment #4 and I'm sure there will be several inquiries as to its authentication. If you thought you had mail *before*, Ahab, buckel up and hang on! I’m seeing this blog entry of yours linked EVERYwhere, pointing people to comment #4 and I’m sure there will be several inquiries as to its authentication.

]]> By: Rob K http://gunnuts.net/2007/12/10/new-life-church-shooting/#comment-1715 Rob K Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:12:11 +0000 http://www.nrahab.com/?p=844#comment-1715 "...And let him who has no sword sell his garment and buy one." Luke 22:36 God was with her. “…And let him who has no sword sell his garment and buy one.” Luke 22:36

God was with her.

]]> By: shdwcaster http://gunnuts.net/2007/12/10/new-life-church-shooting/#comment-1703 shdwcaster Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:52:07 +0000 http://www.nrahab.com/?p=844#comment-1703 The church that my wife and I attend (in Washington state) has a similar group of armed volunteers to provide security. Most people aren't aware of their existence (I only know because I've gone shooting with some of the guys on the team). Their presence seems a lot more reasonable today. The church that my wife and I attend (in Washington state) has a similar group of armed volunteers to provide security. Most people aren’t aware of their existence (I only know because I’ve gone shooting with some of the guys on the team). Their presence seems a lot more reasonable today.

]]> By: Joe V. http://gunnuts.net/2007/12/10/new-life-church-shooting/#comment-1702 Joe V. Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:10:40 +0000 http://www.nrahab.com/?p=844#comment-1702 I am with you John D. It simply takes time for the "sheeple" to be able to distinguish between the logical and that which they hear/see. There are people with agendas stampeding the herd. Step away from the herd and use common sense.Gun free zones are not adhere to by those bent on killing. Only an armed good guy will save the day, and many lives! I am with you John D. It simply takes time for the “sheeple” to be able to distinguish between the logical and that which they hear/see.
There are people with agendas stampeding the herd.
Step away from the herd and use common sense.Gun free zones are not adhere to by those bent on killing. Only an armed good guy will save the day, and many lives!

]]> By: John D http://gunnuts.net/2007/12/10/new-life-church-shooting/#comment-1704 John D Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:12:10 +0000 http://www.nrahab.com/?p=844#comment-1704 Well, congrats to her for doing what needed to be done and getting if not a win at least an ata-girl for the good guys. . . goes to show what can happen if the good guys are allowed to be armed too. . . why is it so hard to learn this lesson. . . how many more must pay for the rest to learn this? Well, congrats to her for doing what needed to be done and getting if not a win at least an ata-girl for the good guys. . . goes to show what can happen if the good guys are allowed to be armed too. . .

why is it so hard to learn this lesson. . . how many more must pay for the rest to learn this?

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