I guess VA Tech can posthumously expel Cho for violating VA Tech regulations.

Campus carry is currently illegal in Texas also, and I work for a university in northern Texas, which means my CHL isn’t valid there; I carry everywhere else, but as I walk to and from work of a morning and evening, I have to be disarmed. University regs further state no WEAPONS on campus, so I can’t even carry a defensive knife. And this is a university that caters primarily to women, also. The only good thing is that since it’s such a small campus, and the UPD is centrally located, the cops could respond more rapidly than on other campuses–IF they’re aware of what’s going on, and are notified…but they’re in the “when seconds count, the police are only minutes away” situation. A few less minutes, 5 instead of 15 maybe, but still minutes.

It’s rather unnerving, at times. I posted an add for USCCA on the Student Union Free Speech board. Next I’ll put up a Concealed Campus flier and maybe Second Amendment Sisters for good measure.

Anyone who is anti=guns won’t bother to research; it is easier to swallow the drivel doled out by the Brady Bunch than to actually do some reading and thinking.

The catch here in all of this is whether Cho’s mental health issues before the judge would have be reviewed to a denial standard for a CHP that allowed him to pass under a regular state purchase check? My answer would be: No. Had he applied for a VA CHP, he would have gotten it. Essentially, if you fail to qualify for a CHP in VA (other than due to failures on your part in filing the application), you aren’t qualified to own firearms in the State of Virginia AT ALL.

Bear in mind for VA, fingerprints are not a requirement for a permit and it varies from county to county. The checks are done by the local jurisdiction through their systems. Only a few counties require them. Many of the databases they check for a CHP are the same ones checked by NICS. I do believe they contact the State Police as part of the process to hit the FBI among others.

At the end of the day, as you say, it’s academic. He didn’t apply for a CHP and just broke the law. Carrying on campus with a permit is irrelevant even if the campus had allowed it. It would have only been valuable to the anti-gunners if that were so if and only if Cho had applied for and gotten a CHP prior to his killing spree. That would have been ammunition (pardon the pun) they could have used against us.

Alas, grasping at straws, the poor things. CHP holders do not do what Cho did. They aren’t wired for it. People who legally seek out the right to carry a concealed weapon are the ones least likely to use them in a criminal murder spree.

Matt

In the end, though, this piece of the discussion doesn’t matter much. Except for the fantasies of the anti-gunners, the murderer would never have sought a CHP, regardless of which law was in place.

My other understanding is that court ordered mental care, whether outpatient or otherwise would be part of the records search conducted by the Sheriff’s Office/State Troopers.

In Indiana, your entire history of everything is searched, including medical records.

Ahab and Dustin: Virginia’s CHP background check is undoubtedly different from a NICS check, but I’m curious what leads you to believe it would have turned up his outpatient treatment order.

I also agree that it is unlikely that the killer would have bothered to apply for a CCW even if CCW carry were legal on campus. Someone willing to murder really could care less about any rule or law that says you can’t bring a weapon on campus.

It is however likely that without the gun free zone ban one or more of the students or teachers in that building would have been carrying their own self defense weapon on that dreadful day. I can’t say for sure that the killer would have been stopped much earlier in his killing spree, but one thing is for sure – such a person would have had much better chance with a gun than trying to hide behind a desk.