Comments on: IPSC Production Gun

By: Broadsword

Broadsword — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 14:04:22 +0000

I do not shoot in any competition. But I carry a CZ P-01, and concur with others’ good opinions of it. Have you ever put your hands onto one? When I was looking for a second larger (than my Kahr CW9) pistol, at one grasp of the rubber grips on the P-01 I was sold. You’d have to like the decocker, (I do). But it’s 14 rounds and damned accurate.

By: Rio Arriba

Rio Arriba — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 13:31:55 +0000

I just wrote about my CZ75B on my blog. If you like HEAVY steel pistols, it’s a winner.

By: Turk Turon

Turk Turon — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:29:30 +0000

P.S. My full-size Witness fits nice and snugly into an El-Cheapo leather belt holster for a 1911, retention strap and all.

By: Turk Turon

Turk Turon — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:26:10 +0000

I have a full-size Witness in 10mm with slide/barrel/mag combos for 9mm, 40 S&W and 38-Super. I shot it at the bowling pin shoot last weekend. Had a lot of failures-to-feed that day. Clears the table, though! Harlon quipped, “Pretty good for a single-shot!”

The mags with red plastic followers are the ones to get, and so far only the factory mags have them. The factory mags ARE made by Mec-Gar, but the Mec-Gar aftermarket mags suck! Go figure.

I got mine new at a gun show in April. It was $370. The extra slide/barrel combos are $200 and the magazines are $40.

Once I solve the failure-to-feed problem it will be a good gun. It’s my “poor man’s Krieghoff”, i.e. one gun in four calibers.

Roberta X has a compact Witness in 38-Super.

By: Roberta X

Roberta X — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 03:48:30 +0000

CZ 75 and Witness are just almost the same gun. I own a CZ 75B and (Compact) Witnesses in 9mm and .38SA, which you are welcome to shoot.

However, the grip and layout owes a lot of the Hi-Power; they are unlike both the 1911 and Glock.

By: Clay

Clay — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 02:28:24 +0000

If you want to keep something similar to the glock, but with a crisper break – get a Steyr M9A1 — they’re inexpensive but not cheap. You can get them from CDNN for $339. Their customer service is amazing, the barrel axis is low, the trigger feels almost single action, and you can’t beat the trap sights.

By: Exurbankevin

Exurbankevin — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:48:02 +0000

The Witness is a great gun and ridiculously accurate, but you may find holsters for it a bit hard to come by.

A CZ75BD or Phantom (Yeah, I know, plastic. Try it first, you’ll be surprised) might be more in line for a Production gun.

In Production, having a decocker on a DA firearm with a hammer prevents any chance of you getting an AD and an unexpected early trip from the range.

By: freddyboomboom

freddyboomboom — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:01:40 +0000

Beretta Elite II: Good choice, you’re familiar with the platform, you like Berettas. Check the classifieds section of http://www.berettaforum.net/vb/ and even post a WTB… You could opt for a PX-4 if you were interested in tactical tupperware. :) The rotating barrel supposedly tames the recoil, and since the barrel doesn’t tilt that supposedly helps with accuracy. I really like my PX-4, but I wouldn’t mind adding an M9/92 type to the collection…

Witness: Good choice, from what I’ve read. They’re clones (very good clones, and high quality in their own right) of the CZ 75 series, so going with a CZ 75 of some flavor isn’t too far fetched. I really like my CZ 75 P-01, but it’s one of the “compact” versions in the CZ 75 lineup.

Para: Good choice, I’ve read good things about them. And you have two other Para 1911 style pistols, so the controls are fundamentally similar. Tam’s argument supports this as well as supporting the Glock…

Bottom line, I don’t think you’d go wrong with any of these three choices, which probably doesn’t help you out any… :)

So I say go for the Beretta.

By: Caleb

Caleb — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:59:37 +0000

Yes, yes I do. And truth be told, I am considering a Glock, but I can’t get the wonderful memory of how little felt muzzle flip was on that all steel Para 18-9.

The Beretta wouldn’t really be like adding another action and trigger pull, since I keep and shoot a 92 on a regular basis, I just don’t compete with it – right now that has the most mental points going for it.

Honestly, the real appeal of the Tanfoglio would be so that I could be the guy with the gun that no one else has, which is great until it throws a part and you have to order spares from the Turkish Pistolsmith Monks who are exiled to Uzbeckistan and only make three parts a year. You know, kind of like an HK.

Had I made this a four gun list, the Glock would have been on there.

By: Tam

Tam — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:44:25 +0000

Don’t you love it when you ask this question and folks read it as “What’s your favorite gun?” :rolleyes:

You do not want to add another type of trigger pull, control layout, or grip shape.

Go with a Glock 35.