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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://gunnuts.net/2008/12/18/lets-make-it-illegaler/#comment-6240</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 04:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what the definition of &quot;hidden compartments&quot; is?  My Grand Caravan has the built in &quot;stow-and-go&quot; compartments under the floorboards, and it doesn&#039;t take much imagination to think what you could hide in there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what the definition of &#8220;hidden compartments&#8221; is?  My Grand Caravan has the built in &#8220;stow-and-go&#8221; compartments under the floorboards, and it doesn&#8217;t take much imagination to think what you could hide in there.</p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
		<link>http://gunnuts.net/2008/12/18/lets-make-it-illegaler/#comment-6239</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 05:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And of course Police Chief Bratton&#039;s remark ir rather stupid.

&quot;Unless you are out trying to kill Godzilla there&#039;s no need for this type of weapon in an urban environment,&quot; police Chief William Bratton said at a news conference as he held up a .50-caliber bullet, easily longer than a finger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And of course Police Chief Bratton&#8217;s remark ir rather stupid.</p>
<p>&#8220;Unless you are out trying to kill Godzilla there&#8217;s no need for this type of weapon in an urban environment,&#8221; police Chief William Bratton said at a news conference as he held up a .50-caliber bullet, easily longer than a finger.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Huffman</title>
		<link>http://gunnuts.net/2008/12/18/lets-make-it-illegaler/#comment-6238</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Huffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 00:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need an editor..

That should have been, &quot;Of course they are &lt;em&gt;changing&lt;/em&gt; the subject...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need an editor..</p>
<p>That should have been, &#8220;Of course they are <em>changing</em> the subject&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Huffman</title>
		<link>http://gunnuts.net/2008/12/18/lets-make-it-illegaler/#comment-6237</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Huffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 00:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it was the VPC that compiled a list of &quot;crimes&quot; committed with a .50 BMG. Nearly all of them were of the nature that some drug dealer or wife beater had a .50 stored away someplace and it was confiscated when they were arrested. The VPC concluded something to the effect, &quot;See! The NRA lies! There are lots of .50 BMGs associated with crimes!&quot;

Of course they are subject from what we claim. We claim the .50 is (almost) never &lt;em&gt;used&lt;/em&gt; as a criminal tool. They claim it if was owned by a criminal then we are lying and banning the .50 is justified. I guess the .50 is a bad influence on people.the mere ownership can cause them to do bad things.

I think there was one actual crime committed with a .50 BMG in the last 30 years. IIRC a deputy in Colorado (???) trying to protect an ex-wife or girlfriend of the perp. The deputy was killed and the prep took his own life. There was a .50 present but it wasn&#039;t entirely clear if it was actually used or if it was another rifle used killed the deputy. Since the perp was dead it didn&#039;t really matter at the time.

At least that is the way I remember it. If it&#039;s really important I could probably find the details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was the VPC that compiled a list of &#8220;crimes&#8221; committed with a .50 BMG. Nearly all of them were of the nature that some drug dealer or wife beater had a .50 stored away someplace and it was confiscated when they were arrested. The VPC concluded something to the effect, &#8220;See! The NRA lies! There are lots of .50 BMGs associated with crimes!&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course they are subject from what we claim. We claim the .50 is (almost) never <em>used</em> as a criminal tool. They claim it if was owned by a criminal then we are lying and banning the .50 is justified. I guess the .50 is a bad influence on people.the mere ownership can cause them to do bad things.</p>
<p>I think there was one actual crime committed with a .50 BMG in the last 30 years. IIRC a deputy in Colorado (???) trying to protect an ex-wife or girlfriend of the perp. The deputy was killed and the prep took his own life. There was a .50 present but it wasn&#8217;t entirely clear if it was actually used or if it was another rifle used killed the deputy. Since the perp was dead it didn&#8217;t really matter at the time.</p>
<p>At least that is the way I remember it. If it&#8217;s really important I could probably find the details.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfwood</title>
		<link>http://gunnuts.net/2008/12/18/lets-make-it-illegaler/#comment-6236</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolfwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three thoughts on the .50 caliber ban:

1.  I think I read of a shooting that occurred where a guy had a Barret in the back of his truck.  One possible meaning of &quot;with&quot; thus allows the (misleading) statement that the crime was committed with such a rifle.

2.  Aren&#039;t there rumors of Mexican gangs using .50 guns?

3.  I have a hard time imagining any ganbanger having an AR-15 in .50 Beowulf, but has this happened?  Along the same lines, have we had any recent black powder rifle crimes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three thoughts on the .50 caliber ban:</p>
<p>1.  I think I read of a shooting that occurred where a guy had a Barret in the back of his truck.  One possible meaning of &#8220;with&#8221; thus allows the (misleading) statement that the crime was committed with such a rifle.</p>
<p>2.  Aren&#8217;t there rumors of Mexican gangs using .50 guns?</p>
<p>3.  I have a hard time imagining any ganbanger having an AR-15 in .50 Beowulf, but has this happened?  Along the same lines, have we had any recent black powder rifle crimes?</p>
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		<title>By: Alcibiades</title>
		<link>http://gunnuts.net/2008/12/18/lets-make-it-illegaler/#comment-6235</link>
		<dc:creator>Alcibiades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it&#039;s hidden, what are the odds of them finding it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s hidden, what are the odds of them finding it?</p>
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		<title>By: Less</title>
		<link>http://gunnuts.net/2008/12/18/lets-make-it-illegaler/#comment-6234</link>
		<dc:creator>Less</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Banning secret compartments in vehicles to hide firearms&lt;/i&gt;

They finally repealed this silliness in Illinois about hidden compartments.</description>
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<p>They finally repealed this silliness in Illinois about hidden compartments.</p>
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