Comments on: Federal birdshot loads for the Judge http://gunnuts.net/2009/06/12/federal-birdshot-loads-for-the-judge/ Gun info by shooters, for shooters Thu, 24 May 2012 08:45:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: John the Texaner http://gunnuts.net/2009/06/12/federal-birdshot-loads-for-the-judge/#comment-11310 John the Texaner Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:25:13 +0000 http://gunnuts.net/?p=3614#comment-11310 Any round that's going to be effective against a human is going to penetrate a wall. I live an apartment, and I keep buckshot in my shotgun and real SD rounds in my pistols. Rather than cripple the effectiveness of my shotgun by loading up with birdshot, I put serious thinking into my surroundings and risks to my neighbors in as many scenarios I can think of, and serious time training with any firearm I would use for self-defense. If you don't miss, wall penetration isn't an issue. Train to be sure of your shots before you make them. That way, if the time comes to use your shotgun, you fall back on your training rather than concerning yourself with the what-ifs of wall penetration. Any round that’s going to be effective against a human is going to penetrate a wall. I live an apartment, and I keep buckshot in my shotgun and real SD rounds in my pistols.

Rather than cripple the effectiveness of my shotgun by loading up with birdshot, I put serious thinking into my surroundings and risks to my neighbors in as many scenarios I can think of, and serious time training with any firearm I would use for self-defense.

If you don’t miss, wall penetration isn’t an issue. Train to be sure of your shots before you make them. That way, if the time comes to use your shotgun, you fall back on your training rather than concerning yourself with the what-ifs of wall penetration.

]]> By: Steve http://gunnuts.net/2009/06/12/federal-birdshot-loads-for-the-judge/#comment-11302 Steve Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:17:17 +0000 http://gunnuts.net/?p=3614#comment-11302 Thanks for your thoughts. I updated the post and added a link to this blog post. Thanks for your thoughts. I updated the post and added a link to this blog post.

]]> By: MG http://gunnuts.net/2009/06/12/federal-birdshot-loads-for-the-judge/#comment-11285 MG Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:04:53 +0000 http://gunnuts.net/?p=3614#comment-11285 I think Mike is right. Living in an apartment type setup one of my main concerns in home defense is over penetration. Dry wall and fiberglass insulation doesn't do much to stop a lot of calibers. I think Mike is right. Living in an apartment type setup one of my main concerns in home defense is over penetration. Dry wall and fiberglass insulation doesn’t do much to stop a lot of calibers.

]]> By: Lokidude http://gunnuts.net/2009/06/12/federal-birdshot-loads-for-the-judge/#comment-11283 Lokidude Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:07:28 +0000 http://gunnuts.net/?p=3614#comment-11283 Me, I'd try running the .410 buckshot loads that S&B and a couple others make. 3" Judge with 5-pellet 00 buck I think would make someone redefine their priorities. Me, I’d try running the .410 buckshot loads that S&B and a couple others make. 3″ Judge with 5-pellet 00 buck I think would make someone redefine their priorities.

]]> By: Caleb http://gunnuts.net/2009/06/12/federal-birdshot-loads-for-the-judge/#comment-11274 Caleb Sat, 13 Jun 2009 02:28:05 +0000 http://gunnuts.net/?p=3614#comment-11274 Frank, thanks for the heads up. If someone gave me a Judge, i'd probably stick to the Cowboy flatpoint loads. Good enough for Wyatt Earp, good enough for me. Frank, thanks for the heads up. If someone gave me a Judge, i’d probably stick to the Cowboy flatpoint loads. Good enough for Wyatt Earp, good enough for me.

]]> By: Farmer Frank http://gunnuts.net/2009/06/12/federal-birdshot-loads-for-the-judge/#comment-11273 Farmer Frank Sat, 13 Jun 2009 02:19:09 +0000 http://gunnuts.net/?p=3614#comment-11273 Caleb: during my testing of a 'Judge' I found the sample I had wouldn't shoot semi-wadcutter bullets worth a hoot. Didn't matter if they were home cast or factory swaged, they key-holed badly.....consistently! Round nose lead on the other hand shot better than I expected, so see if others experience the same results I did. Also I found 'Cowboy Loads' shot better, accuracy wise, than Cor-Bon. Big Surprise, I know, but it was what I found. All the Best, Frank W. James Caleb: during my testing of a ‘Judge’ I found the sample I had wouldn’t shoot semi-wadcutter bullets worth a hoot. Didn’t matter if they were home cast or factory swaged, they key-holed badly…..consistently! Round nose lead on the other hand shot better than I expected, so see if others experience the same results I did. Also I found ‘Cowboy Loads’ shot better, accuracy wise, than Cor-Bon. Big Surprise, I know, but it was what I found.

All the Best,
Frank W. James

]]> By: Michael in CT http://gunnuts.net/2009/06/12/federal-birdshot-loads-for-the-judge/#comment-11271 Michael in CT Sat, 13 Jun 2009 00:36:07 +0000 http://gunnuts.net/?p=3614#comment-11271 Under certain conditions, such as apartment or condo living, the heavier birdshots are a viable load. The ranges are short and overpenetration is an unacceptable risk. Not all of us can use buckshot or slugs Under certain conditions, such as apartment or condo living, the heavier birdshots are a viable load. The ranges are short and overpenetration is an unacceptable risk. Not all of us can use buckshot or slugs

]]> By: Gun Shy Tourist http://gunnuts.net/2009/06/12/federal-birdshot-loads-for-the-judge/#comment-11270 Gun Shy Tourist Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:33:41 +0000 http://gunnuts.net/?p=3614#comment-11270 Caleb, Many people have fantasies about so called stopping power based on range myths and old wives tales. If anyone is planning on using the Judge for home protection, they should check this out first: http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot41.htm Caleb,

Many people have fantasies about so called stopping power based on range myths and old wives tales. If anyone is planning on using the Judge for home protection, they should check this out first:

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot41.htm

]]> By: Jose Gigante http://gunnuts.net/2009/06/12/federal-birdshot-loads-for-the-judge/#comment-11250 Jose Gigante Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:08:23 +0000 http://gunnuts.net/?p=3614#comment-11250 But... but... but... you don't have to AIM a shotshell! But… but… but… you don’t have to AIM a shotshell!

]]> By: Chris Bennett http://gunnuts.net/2009/06/12/federal-birdshot-loads-for-the-judge/#comment-11249 Chris Bennett Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:03:49 +0000 http://gunnuts.net/?p=3614#comment-11249 Haha, The funny google search results I can imagine this page getting :) Haha, The funny google search results I can imagine this page getting :)

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