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		<title>By: Ian Argent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Argent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dunno about hearing stressful situations (While I&#039;ve been in a few, they didn&#039;t involve firearms, though they did involve other sensory and memory anomalies - in particular I have hard experience about the lack of pain while adrenalized - dislocated my elbow and didn&#039;t notice until the match was over); but I wandered into a norminally outdoor firing range looking for a representative of the PTB there; someone touched off something in a handgun, and the ears they started ringing immediately. (We stepped &quot;outside&quot; to have our discussion - other side of a cinderblock wall).

So, yeah, I&#039;d be one for hearing protection. Given my wife and cats are about, I&#039;d prefer not to completely damp out ambient sounds until the time comes, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dunno about hearing stressful situations (While I&#8217;ve been in a few, they didn&#8217;t involve firearms, though they did involve other sensory and memory anomalies &#8211; in particular I have hard experience about the lack of pain while adrenalized &#8211; dislocated my elbow and didn&#8217;t notice until the match was over); but I wandered into a norminally outdoor firing range looking for a representative of the PTB there; someone touched off something in a handgun, and the ears they started ringing immediately. (We stepped &#8220;outside&#8221; to have our discussion &#8211; other side of a cinderblock wall).</p>
<p>So, yeah, I&#8217;d be one for hearing protection. Given my wife and cats are about, I&#8217;d prefer not to completely damp out ambient sounds until the time comes, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Ry Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is why I have a silencer on my HDR.</description>
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		<title>By: Less</title>
		<link>http://gunnuts.net/2009/10/12/tactical-thoughts/#comment-13347</link>
		<dc:creator>Less</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;but a great deal of medical and psychological data show that the body can shut down hearing in high stress events, preventing the ringing after effects (Grossman, On Combat)&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, I recall that they had a panel of experts talking about &quot;auditory exclusion&quot; at ILEETA a few years back. Grossman, Ayoob, etc...

John Krupa got up and asked how many have heard a gun without hearing protection? 

A few hands up in the crowd.

&lt;b&gt;&quot;Remember the immediate RINGING IN YOUR F*(CKING EARS BECAUSE IT WAS SO GORAM LOUD?!&quot; &lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>but a great deal of medical and psychological data show that the body can shut down hearing in high stress events, preventing the ringing after effects (Grossman, On Combat)</i></p>
<p>Yeah, I recall that they had a panel of experts talking about &#8220;auditory exclusion&#8221; at ILEETA a few years back. Grossman, Ayoob, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>John Krupa got up and asked how many have heard a gun without hearing protection? </p>
<p>A few hands up in the crowd.</p>
<p><b>&#8220;Remember the immediate RINGING IN YOUR F*(CKING EARS BECAUSE IT WAS SO GORAM LOUD?!&#8221; </b></p>
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		<title>By: Homer</title>
		<link>http://gunnuts.net/2009/10/12/tactical-thoughts/#comment-13346</link>
		<dc:creator>Homer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tried this a while back and was surprised; walking around the house with the volume turned up I could hear the dog panting quietly in his sleep, couldn&#039;t hear him without the amplified muffs. Except for range trips, they&#039;re always in the night stand. 

I wonder, though, would wearing muffs during a confrontation appear to a zealous prosecutor as a premeditated act? Why were you wearing muffs if you weren&#039;t planning on shooting someone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tried this a while back and was surprised; walking around the house with the volume turned up I could hear the dog panting quietly in his sleep, couldn&#8217;t hear him without the amplified muffs. Except for range trips, they&#8217;re always in the night stand. </p>
<p>I wonder, though, would wearing muffs during a confrontation appear to a zealous prosecutor as a premeditated act? Why were you wearing muffs if you weren&#8217;t planning on shooting someone?</p>
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		<title>By: Weer'd Beard</title>
		<link>http://gunnuts.net/2009/10/12/tactical-thoughts/#comment-13343</link>
		<dc:creator>Weer'd Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read this for years in hunter mags.   You&#039;ll see ads for electronic earplugs that have a built-in mic so you can hear better....but they go dead with loud noises so your gun won&#039;t make your ears ring.

Never really used them, I buy non electronic ears for my range time and just shout like a fool on the firing line.

I imagine if I have to pop somebody the ringing in my ears will be the least of my problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read this for years in hunter mags.   You&#8217;ll see ads for electronic earplugs that have a built-in mic so you can hear better&#8230;.but they go dead with loud noises so your gun won&#8217;t make your ears ring.</p>
<p>Never really used them, I buy non electronic ears for my range time and just shout like a fool on the firing line.</p>
<p>I imagine if I have to pop somebody the ringing in my ears will be the least of my problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Merchant24</title>
		<link>http://gunnuts.net/2009/10/12/tactical-thoughts/#comment-13341</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Merchant24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going to claim to be smarter than Ed Head, but a great deal of medical and psychological data show that the body can shut down hearing in high stress events, preventing the ringing after effects (Grossman, On Combat). 

I keep going back and forth on putting my can on the HD AR. Yes, it will protect my hearing, but it adds overall length and there&#039;s the jury stigma to overcome after the fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to claim to be smarter than Ed Head, but a great deal of medical and psychological data show that the body can shut down hearing in high stress events, preventing the ringing after effects (Grossman, On Combat). </p>
<p>I keep going back and forth on putting my can on the HD AR. Yes, it will protect my hearing, but it adds overall length and there&#8217;s the jury stigma to overcome after the fact.</p>
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		<title>By: aczarnowski</title>
		<link>http://gunnuts.net/2009/10/12/tactical-thoughts/#comment-13335</link>
		<dc:creator>aczarnowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll have to think about this some more but my first thought is not so much.  After 7 years I feel pretty in tune with the creaks and groans of my house.  Putting on ear protection, electronic or not, seems like it would invalidate pretty much all of that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have to think about this some more but my first thought is not so much.  After 7 years I feel pretty in tune with the creaks and groans of my house.  Putting on ear protection, electronic or not, seems like it would invalidate pretty much all of that&#8230;</p>
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