Comments on: Quote of the Day http://gunnuts.net/2009/10/15/quote-of-the-day-16/ Gun info by shooters, for shooters Thu, 24 May 2012 14:07:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: currentMarine http://gunnuts.net/2009/10/15/quote-of-the-day-16/#comment-13646 currentMarine Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:27:39 +0000 http://gunnuts.net/?p=4485#comment-13646 funny, all the radio shows and "reports" in the world don't mean squat compared to real-world experiences. such experiences show the ak47 is boring in its reliability while the m-16a4 and m4/m4a1 require constant maintenance to achieve less-than-stellar reliability. ar15 on a top 5 list? maybe on a top 5 unreliable list. funny, all the radio shows and “reports” in the world don’t mean squat compared to real-world experiences. such experiences show the ak47 is boring in its reliability while the m-16a4 and m4/m4a1 require constant maintenance to achieve less-than-stellar reliability.

ar15 on a top 5 list? maybe on a top 5 unreliable list.

]]> By: Clint http://gunnuts.net/2009/10/15/quote-of-the-day-16/#comment-13509 Clint Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:46:50 +0000 http://gunnuts.net/?p=4485#comment-13509 "Actually the 7.62mm diameter bullet of the M43 round, like all spitzer bullets will tumble in flesh" Dr. Fackler disagrees http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62_x_39_mm "wounds from the M43 round were comparable to that of a small handgun round using non-expanding bullets" There is also a report on bullet effect on arf.com, etc. However, Czech ammo was IIRC, very good. “Actually the 7.62mm diameter bullet of the M43 round, like all spitzer bullets will tumble in flesh”

Dr. Fackler disagrees
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62_x_39_mm
“wounds from the M43 round were comparable to that of a small handgun round using non-expanding bullets”

There is also a report on bullet effect on arf.com, etc.

However, Czech ammo was IIRC, very good.

]]> By: Don Meaker http://gunnuts.net/2009/10/15/quote-of-the-day-16/#comment-13470 Don Meaker Sat, 17 Oct 2009 04:39:06 +0000 http://gunnuts.net/?p=4485#comment-13470 Actually the 7.62mm diameter bullet of the M43 round, like all spitzer bullets will tumble in flesh. Flesh is over 1000 times as dense as air, and rounds spin stabilized in air will be very unlikely to be stable in flesh with nose end first. However, it will be stable in flesh with the heavy tail end first. Unlike the M193 or M855 round used in the M-16 or M-4, the M43 does not fragment. The M193 and M855 rounds have a cannelure which acts as a weak point in the jacket. As the round turns sideways (or pitches up, or pitches down) there is a big bending force in the jacket, and at terminal velocity faster than 2500 feet per second the jacket tears, and the round then fragments. Actually the 7.62mm diameter bullet of the M43 round, like all spitzer bullets will tumble in flesh. Flesh is over 1000 times as dense as air, and rounds spin stabilized in air will be very unlikely to be stable in flesh with nose end first. However, it will be stable in flesh with the heavy tail end first.

Unlike the M193 or M855 round used in the M-16 or M-4, the M43 does not fragment. The M193 and M855 rounds have a cannelure which acts as a weak point in the jacket. As the round turns sideways (or pitches up, or pitches down) there is a big bending force in the jacket, and at terminal velocity faster than 2500 feet per second the jacket tears, and the round then fragments.

]]> By: Clint http://gunnuts.net/2009/10/15/quote-of-the-day-16/#comment-13444 Clint Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:37:58 +0000 http://gunnuts.net/?p=4485#comment-13444 "they have changed the world." Only because they were crapped out by the millions and given to every wannabee thug-rebel in the third world. If the Commies had done that with the SKS instead, we all be talking about how "great" the SKS is. Now, the AK is a “good enough” gun, but as it stands, the SKS is the Rodney Dangerfield of rifles. It gets no respect, at least not the amount it deserves When you stop to think about it, there is nothing a non-NFA* AK can do that a SKS can't do for less money, and sometimes the SKS does it better. *The SKS was originally designed to be select fire and fed with detachable box magazines. “they have changed the world.”

Only because they were crapped out by the millions and given to every wannabee thug-rebel in the third world. If the Commies had done that with the SKS instead, we all be talking about how “great” the SKS is. Now, the AK is a “good enough” gun, but as it stands, the SKS is the Rodney Dangerfield of rifles. It gets no respect, at least not the amount it deserves

When you stop to think about it, there is nothing a non-NFA* AK can do that a SKS can’t do for less money, and sometimes the SKS does it better.

*The SKS was originally designed to be select fire and fed with detachable box magazines.

]]> By: Breda http://gunnuts.net/2009/10/15/quote-of-the-day-16/#comment-13441 Breda Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:46:56 +0000 http://gunnuts.net/?p=4485#comment-13441 holy crap. Are you quoting yourself? holy crap. Are you quoting yourself?

]]> By: Mike http://gunnuts.net/2009/10/15/quote-of-the-day-16/#comment-13440 Mike Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:33:29 +0000 http://gunnuts.net/?p=4485#comment-13440 Because its about the AK ill let it slide.. but if it was about the Glock i'd have to burn this mofo down! (harold and kumar whitecastle reference) haha :P Because its about the AK ill let it slide.. but if it was about the Glock i’d have to burn this mofo down! (harold and kumar whitecastle reference) haha :P

]]> By: Mikee http://gunnuts.net/2009/10/15/quote-of-the-day-16/#comment-13437 Mikee Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:32:26 +0000 http://gunnuts.net/?p=4485#comment-13437 I shot an AK once. That was enough, until the zombie apocalypse starts or the Wolverines are reactivated. I shot an AK once. That was enough, until the zombie apocalypse starts or the Wolverines are reactivated.

]]> By: NMM1AFan http://gunnuts.net/2009/10/15/quote-of-the-day-16/#comment-13436 NMM1AFan Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:16:35 +0000 http://gunnuts.net/?p=4485#comment-13436 The thing I don't like about AKs is that every one I have looked at, even the $1K Arsenal rifles, has the rear sight canted to the left about 10 degrees. Is it just because they're all built by drunk commies who don't give a crap? The thing I don’t like about AKs is that every one I have looked at, even the $1K Arsenal rifles, has the rear sight canted to the left about 10 degrees.

Is it just because they’re all built by drunk commies who don’t give a crap?

]]> By: MCSA56 http://gunnuts.net/2009/10/15/quote-of-the-day-16/#comment-13433 MCSA56 Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:08:11 +0000 http://gunnuts.net/?p=4485#comment-13433 Man, I thought you'd have more comments on this by now... I even made popcorn! ;) Man, I thought you’d have more comments on this by now…

I even made popcorn!

;)

]]> By: Jeff the Baptist http://gunnuts.net/2009/10/15/quote-of-the-day-16/#comment-13431 Jeff the Baptist Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:05:36 +0000 http://gunnuts.net/?p=4485#comment-13431 The real sad thing about the AK is that people think it's a better manstopper than the 5.56 guns because it shoots a bigger caliber bullet. It isn't. The original 123 grain 7.62x39mm is notorious for through and throughs. It doesn't tumble. It doesn't break up and fragment. It puts a .30 hole through people with a additional narrow wound track. It's not a good lethality round at all compared to most of the 5.56 rounds which will reliably tumble and fragment at reasonable contact ranges. The real sad thing about the AK is that people think it’s a better manstopper than the 5.56 guns because it shoots a bigger caliber bullet. It isn’t. The original 123 grain 7.62x39mm is notorious for through and throughs. It doesn’t tumble. It doesn’t break up and fragment. It puts a .30 hole through people with a additional narrow wound track. It’s not a good lethality round at all compared to most of the 5.56 rounds which will reliably tumble and fragment at reasonable contact ranges.

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