Comments on: IDPA Hot Coffee Stage

By: Caleb

Caleb — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:56:56 +0000

My two cents: had I designed the stage, I would have done thus: first two targets engaged with a loaner small caliber BUG, then at position B your pistol would be staged, simulating using your BUG to fight your way to the “real” gun in your car.

By: Sendarius

Sendarius — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:16:31 +0000

Sorry Tam, I got that too :)

It’s just that I am an engineer by training and by nature – to us humour is often secondary to the data content.

By: Tam

Tam — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:47:08 +0000

I was just trying to be funny. :(

Anyhow, you’re right in that the commonly-used terminology is kinda screwy. The terms “BUG” and “Pocket Pistol” have somehow become synonyms, even though people frequently carry them as primary pistols in a belt holster…

By: Sendarius

Sendarius — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:25:18 +0000

Tam, I know the story.

The thing is, that little pistol was NOT Caleb’s BUG – it was his ONLY gun, therefore it was his PRIMARY gun.

That was why I prefaced my post with “I don’t understand”. It seems that a lot of people (you included) are calling it a BUG because it was a small pistol – that just isn’t the way I think of it.

By: Tam

Tam — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:19:08 +0000

Sendarius,

Why should the FIRST targets be engaged with a BUG? Surely if you have a BUG, it means that you also have a primary firearm…

See, there was this guy named Caleb, and as he was walking to his car one day after work… ;)

By: CSFreestyle

CSFreestyle — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:57:11 +0000

Is it too soon to quip “Thank goodness the RL Hot Coffee Stage didn’t have a couple No-Shoots”?

By: Sendarius

Sendarius — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:53:04 +0000

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But I agree – the stage should be shot with a Backup Gun, at least to start.
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I don’t understand.
Why should the FIRST targets be engaged with a BUG? Surely if you have a BUG, it means that you also have a primary firearm that you would use as first choice due to ease of access, greater power and/or capacity, and ease of use.

If you had said the LAST two targets, then I would agree completely – I see the BUG as being used AFTER the primary firearm is empty or has a malfunction.

By: Homer

Homer — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:39:02 +0000

Hmm….T1 and T2 don’t have to be engaged tactically? Or, is coffee heated to above 160F tactical in and of itself?

I think it should be required that T1 and T2 should be engaged tactically with a mouse gun loaded with only 4 rounds, empty gun left on a table at B.

By: troy

troy — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:54:47 +0000

@Daniels – our club (http://www.richmondhotshots.com/) doesn’t utilize BUGs on the action range (or at least we never have since I’ve been a member).

By: Daniels

Daniels — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:57:01 +0000

That’s fantastic!

But I agree – the stage should be shot with a Backup Gun, at least to start.