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		<title>By: Caleb</title>
		<link>http://gunnuts.net/2010/07/06/a-serious-3-gun-rig/#comment-18895</link>
		<dc:creator>Caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for reading, Haji!</description>
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		<title>By: Haji</title>
		<link>http://gunnuts.net/2010/07/06/a-serious-3-gun-rig/#comment-18894</link>
		<dc:creator>Haji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jbomultigun, I thought the appeal of crack was that it was cheap! Heavy Metal class surely isn&#039;t, and if I get into three gun-there isn&#039;t much going on here in west KY without a major drive for me, but that may change in the near future-it won&#039;t be in the HM class. One of my regular customers did very well in the MGM Iron Man in that class, and his equipment is worth more than my truck with all my guns in it. 1911&#039;s just cost too dang much and require more maintenance than I want to invest to compete with &#039;em. The MnP .45, though, may prove to be the best .45 duty gun out there over time. There&#039;s a lot to like there.

For all the bad I&#039;ve come across in Bushamster .223 rifles, their 7.62 rifles seem to be pretty well thought of. Some careful parts swaps can make those R25&#039;s reliable rifles.

While the 870 is heavier, the pump stroke is shorter, so I can run it a little faster, and the weight dampens some recoil. I&#039;m slow anyway, so trimming weight reaches diminishing returns quickly for me. ;)

As always, YMMV. Thanks for the blog, Caleb. I don&#039;t always agree, but your posts are interesting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jbomultigun, I thought the appeal of crack was that it was cheap! Heavy Metal class surely isn&#8217;t, and if I get into three gun-there isn&#8217;t much going on here in west KY without a major drive for me, but that may change in the near future-it won&#8217;t be in the HM class. One of my regular customers did very well in the MGM Iron Man in that class, and his equipment is worth more than my truck with all my guns in it. 1911&#8242;s just cost too dang much and require more maintenance than I want to invest to compete with &#8216;em. The MnP .45, though, may prove to be the best .45 duty gun out there over time. There&#8217;s a lot to like there.</p>
<p>For all the bad I&#8217;ve come across in Bushamster .223 rifles, their 7.62 rifles seem to be pretty well thought of. Some careful parts swaps can make those R25&#8242;s reliable rifles.</p>
<p>While the 870 is heavier, the pump stroke is shorter, so I can run it a little faster, and the weight dampens some recoil. I&#8217;m slow anyway, so trimming weight reaches diminishing returns quickly for me. ;)</p>
<p>As always, YMMV. Thanks for the blog, Caleb. I don&#8217;t always agree, but your posts are interesting!</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb</title>
		<link>http://gunnuts.net/2010/07/06/a-serious-3-gun-rig/#comment-18695</link>
		<dc:creator>Caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 12:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like the Mossy pumps, even though I used an 870 in the service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like the Mossy pumps, even though I used an 870 in the service.</p>
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		<title>By: Cowboy Blob</title>
		<link>http://gunnuts.net/2010/07/06/a-serious-3-gun-rig/#comment-18693</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowboy Blob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 04:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friend and I are doing Heavy Metal all year in anticipation of the 2011 Superstition 3-Gun.  He&#039;s using a Les Baer Custom 1911, Remington 870, and Springfield M1A.  I&#039;m packing a 20-year-old Colt Mark IV Series 80, am older Remington 870, and Springfield SOCOM-16 (I&#039;m a lot shorter, so the Baby Thumper is a lot handier for me).  I&#039;m surprised you gave the Mossberg the nod over the ubiquitous Remington pump.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend and I are doing Heavy Metal all year in anticipation of the 2011 Superstition 3-Gun.  He&#8217;s using a Les Baer Custom 1911, Remington 870, and Springfield M1A.  I&#8217;m packing a 20-year-old Colt Mark IV Series 80, am older Remington 870, and Springfield SOCOM-16 (I&#8217;m a lot shorter, so the Baby Thumper is a lot handier for me).  I&#8217;m surprised you gave the Mossberg the nod over the ubiquitous Remington pump.</p>
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		<title>By: jbomultigun</title>
		<link>http://gunnuts.net/2010/07/06/a-serious-3-gun-rig/#comment-18634</link>
		<dc:creator>jbomultigun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 22:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3 gun is twice as addictive as crack and just as expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 gun is twice as addictive as crack and just as expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb</title>
		<link>http://gunnuts.net/2010/07/06/a-serious-3-gun-rig/#comment-18630</link>
		<dc:creator>Caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 21:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I shot a wee bit of 3-gun a long time ago, but I really want to get back into it.  There&#039;s a lot of awesome shooting to do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I shot a wee bit of 3-gun a long time ago, but I really want to get back into it.  There&#8217;s a lot of awesome shooting to do!</p>
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		<title>By: ExurbanKevin</title>
		<link>http://gunnuts.net/2010/07/06/a-serious-3-gun-rig/#comment-18629</link>
		<dc:creator>ExurbanKevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m guessing that spending some time in the Top Shot house with a couple of 3 Gunners has rubbed off on you. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m guessing that spending some time in the Top Shot house with a couple of 3 Gunners has rubbed off on you. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb</title>
		<link>http://gunnuts.net/2010/07/06/a-serious-3-gun-rig/#comment-18628</link>
		<dc:creator>Caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 19:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have also wondered about the SCAR-17.  I know that the FNH team guys run them for their heavy metal rifles, but they also don&#039;t have to pony up 3 grand for them.

I thought long and hard about whether I should pick the Para or the STI Spartan for the entry level gun.  I eventually went with the Para because this is an entry level rig, and for $500 for the Para I think it&#039;s a safe bet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have also wondered about the SCAR-17.  I know that the FNH team guys run them for their heavy metal rifles, but they also don&#8217;t have to pony up 3 grand for them.</p>
<p>I thought long and hard about whether I should pick the Para or the STI Spartan for the entry level gun.  I eventually went with the Para because this is an entry level rig, and for $500 for the Para I think it&#8217;s a safe bet.</p>
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		<title>By: jbomultigun</title>
		<link>http://gunnuts.net/2010/07/06/a-serious-3-gun-rig/#comment-18627</link>
		<dc:creator>jbomultigun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 19:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty decent choices all around. I&#039;d have some reservations about the long-term durability of the Para-Ordnance pistol. I&#039;ve seen them fail with alarming regularity.

The R-25 probably wouldn&#039;t be a bad choice. Weirdly enough, there doesn&#039;t seem to be a solidly good choice for Heavy Metal rifles, it&#039;s either M1As or AR-10s, and they both have their particular drawbacks.  The M1As require a lot of maintenance (or so I&#039;m told) and the AR-10s are prone to just odd malfunctions often enough to be a bit of a hindrance, but not so often as to make them unviable.

I&#039;m wondering if the SCAR-H or FN FNAR will grow to be a popular choice for Heavy Metal shooters in the next two-three years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty decent choices all around. I&#8217;d have some reservations about the long-term durability of the Para-Ordnance pistol. I&#8217;ve seen them fail with alarming regularity.</p>
<p>The R-25 probably wouldn&#8217;t be a bad choice. Weirdly enough, there doesn&#8217;t seem to be a solidly good choice for Heavy Metal rifles, it&#8217;s either M1As or AR-10s, and they both have their particular drawbacks.  The M1As require a lot of maintenance (or so I&#8217;m told) and the AR-10s are prone to just odd malfunctions often enough to be a bit of a hindrance, but not so often as to make them unviable.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering if the SCAR-H or FN FNAR will grow to be a popular choice for Heavy Metal shooters in the next two-three years.</p>
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		<title>By: gunwriter</title>
		<link>http://gunnuts.net/2010/07/06/a-serious-3-gun-rig/#comment-18626</link>
		<dc:creator>gunwriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 18:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you considered the 30 AR for 3 gun heavy metal. Less recoil and a lighter rifle.

I&#039;m addicted to mine!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you considered the 30 AR for 3 gun heavy metal. Less recoil and a lighter rifle.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m addicted to mine!</p>
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